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Post by Lemon Lyman on Sept 8, 2004 10:53:43 GMT
I thought this was a fantastic episode - Josh was forgiven and was the hero, Donna rescued National Security, FLOTUS was back and the characters all seem to be revitilized (sp?). The story line was well structured and they didn't try to deal with too many topics at once. It also brought the feeling the the staff were working as a team again.
Last nights episode also drew a line under the whole Zoe kidnap and the subsequent problems in the Bartlets marriage. The episodes can only get better from now on.
The only thing that bugs me is that annoying women that Leo has brought in to replace (?!) Josh - Angela Blake, I can't see the point in this character. It is a bit Mandy like which is scary that Wells has introduced a character like this when they failed so badly with Mandy. Send her to Mandyville asap and concentrate on the established characters.
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Post by DarkHoarse on Sept 8, 2004 11:32:14 GMT
I second that sentiment! The manufactured conflict between long-established characters was frankly awful, reaching its nadir in 'Constituency of One' which I found almost unwatchable. It doesn't help that I have been watching S1 and S2 DVDs recently though, in preparation for lending them to a friend  as unfavourable comparisons are bound to be made... |
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Post by nicked2101 on Sept 8, 2004 12:07:48 GMT
I agree with all said above - for me this episode was right up there with some of the best from the first two seasons. I have also been watching seasons 1 and 2 recently (not in preperation for anything - I just like to have something to do whilst I am on my exercise bike!), and this would have been at home in either.
::)I am not sure where the Angela Blake character is going at all. She does not even have a personality to speak of, and her inclusion seems somewhat bizzare.
Still - great episode, and my fears over the quality of season five have been banished for good.
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Post by Laura Lyman on Sept 8, 2004 17:17:13 GMT
Certainly one of the season's better episodes but Sorkin's abscence is extremely obvious. Season 5 is nowhere near the calliber of season 1 and 2 (or even 4).
As for Angela Blake and Josh's intern Ryan i just don't see the point in them. I think Leo bringing Angela in was quite uncharacterstic. She should definitely be banished to Mandyville.
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Post by sweetknees on Sept 8, 2004 18:37:29 GMT
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Post by DarkHoarse on Sept 9, 2004 11:09:31 GMT
Yep, she (Angela) is horrendous, though Josh's intern is nearly as bad as Jean-Paul for foppish hair and general arrogance. Though at least Jean-Paul had a point.
The other day I watched 'The Drop In', which I always used to think was quite ordinary by the remarkable standards of S1 and S2. Needless to say it was way ahead of most of season 5: do you get anything even as good as the 'Oh good grief' precredits sequence these days?
Then I watched a double bill of 'Bartlet's 3rd State of the Union' and 'The War at Home'. Now that really would be an unfair comparison...
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Post by Laura Lyman on Sept 10, 2004 16:48:32 GMT
There used to be so many excellent precredit scenes. My personal favourites are In the Shadow of the Two Gunmen, when we discover Josh has been shot and the Short List when the ceiling almost falls on Josh. The funniest is in In This Whitehouse when "Sam is getting his ass kicked by a girl."
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Post by Alanna on Sept 12, 2004 11:35:25 GMT
Yes, I don't like this bunch of pointless characters. They don't fit into the WW anywhere, nor do they have any actual storylines, nor do we care. Send them to Mandyville says I.
Also, this was the first episode in the season that I've actually thought 'wow' at the end of it - the others have just been minor-problem episodes, and with the exception of something that CJ did a week or two ago (see I've forgotten already), completely unmemorable. Glad we're getting back in the old vein. ;D
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as unfavourable comparisons are bound to be made...