No West Wing on 26th May

[Lemon Lyman]

You guessed it! As it is Bank Holiday Monday, C4 is showing some 100 Greatest nonsense so the west wing isn't on.

Shame it means all the terrestial only viewers have to wait 2 weeks to see one of the best S3 episodes Hartsfield Landing.

[DarkHoarse]

Oh (sighs) what is it THIS time?

Everyone knows by now that C4 select the shortlist of 100 and THEN allow people to vote, surely...

I know absolutely no-one who can honestly say that when Graham Norton or whoever says "as voted by YOU" they really have a sense of participating in the democratic process. Does anyone know anyone who has voted in one of these things? They just seem to appear without any prior advertising.

The film star one was especially interesting, e.g. Bogart in the low 30s behind (ahem) Cate Blanchett!!!!

[Admin]

I've always assumed that it was somebody else other than me who was voting for these 100 Greatest Nobody Cares lists. But if it's not just me and also you and, well, most others who aren't voting then, well, I guess I thought wrong.

Al Pacino the greastest actor ever? Yeah, he's good and brings on screen presence with himself, but, the best ever actor..... Around a table sits a group of six programme makers. One says to the others, "let's have Orson Welles as number one. Why, Citizen Kane is a wonderful achievement in the history of motion picture". "No," chirps up another member, "we can't do that. BBC 2 has the terrestrial rights to show that film, we'd look stupid". So the previous speaker backs down. Then the only female programme maker says something. "How's about Robert De Niro", she suggests, and the other five members of the group suddenly perk up. "Thank God", says one, "after eight days of non-stop deliberating, someone has finally hit the nail on the head. We could show Raging Bull or Casino after the 100 countdown. No wait", he shouts as he thinks quickly, "can we show The Godfather"? The oldest man in the group peers above the rim of his spectacles, "No", he says, "we don't have the rights but I've thought of something else. Let's not" he continued, "let's not have Rob DeNiro, I think Al Pacino would fit the bill better". "Would he", asks another. "Of course", says the oldest man in the group "the viewers would expect us to pick De Niro as top dog, so lets shock them and pick Pacino with Rob at number two". The youngest member of the groups sets his coke on the table and quips, "Well thank God we've settled on something and thank God Mark Kermode wasn't in this group because quite frankly I'm tired of all his 'The Exorcist is the greatest film ever made' bullshit, and no one will ever convince me Linda Blair is a serious actor now I've noticed she worked with SClub7, according to her CV".
A silence befalls the room.
The woman speaks, "Now there's an idea....."

Yeah, they make them up.

I agree. Hartsfield's Landing is one of the best episodes of season three.

[DarkHoarse]

Love the Mark Kermode reference there, now I know it's not just me who finds that whole Exorcist schtick extremely tiresome!

[Joey Lucas]

According to the C4 TV listings there's no 100 greatest on, just BB

[DarkHoarse]

Well that just makes it WORSE.

And surely BB is running for 9 weeks, so (assuming - safely I presume!! - they're not postponing TWW for 9 weeks) what is the excuse for not showing TWW this particular week???

[Lemon Lyman]

I've just been looking my telly guide for next week and it seems the only difference to the post Graham Norton schedule is on Monday with TWW, every thing else for the week remains the same - even Eurotrash! So my prediction (I could be proved wrong) is that this is a Bank Holiday thing and TWW will return as normal from June 2.

[DarkHoarse]

Another completely baffling bit of scheduling, and not for the first time:

Eurotrash stays, TWW goes. Even in season 1 I recall TWW coming on AFTER Eurotrash and could never get my head round why this was.

C4 was once an oasis in the desert of dumbed-down TV (no, honestly, it was, in the 17 years BBB)

[Lemon Lyman]

Definately back on 2 Jun, but at 11.40

[bajermajic]

Well at least its on.

My heart was in my mouth for a while there

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[Laura Lyman]

Thank god the West Wing is back next week. Hartsfield Landing is one of the best episodes of the series. For those who have seen it the pranks between charlie and cj make for some of the funniest scenes ever.
Can't believe Evil Channel 4 have bumped the best show on TV to 11.40 again. But at least it's on.

[Admin]

Just to add to the annoyance of it all, C4 is giving Six Feet Under (never watched it, never will) the Royal treatment. Sunday @ 10pm. I suppose the movies weren't getting enough viewers then, I take it

[Lemon Lyman]

Six feet Under isn't bad, I'm just not into dead people - Channel 4 does give it a lot of advertising and showed the first series at a human time not like TWW, so it has got a lot of followers. But then again SFU fans have waited a year to see the second series on terrestrial - channel 4 srikes again.

[pðtù§]

I suppose there's the answer as to why West Wing didn't get the following it deserved. Season one with it's Thursday slot, between 11pm and 1am, whenever they felt like showing it, must have restricted the number of viewers who would become addicted.

IMHO, In The Shadow of Two Gunmen was not the best episode for newcomers who found the show whilst flicking through the channels at 9pm on a Sunday evening.

I don't watch SFU either, and I doubt I will because I didn't see the first season. I'm sure it's a great show for those who've seen it all before, but I can't jump on board the fan wagon now. It's just how I feel.

Damn C4 into Hell for all eternity

[DarkHoarse]

Yep, I'd agree with everything you said there. They treated it badly from the start, or certainly from the middle of S1 when it started bouncing all over the schedules. It always amazes me that it doesn't have more of a following, say at the same sort of level as 24 clearly has. But perhaps you have just put your finger on why.