IT'S A BAD BILL!!!

[Admin]

Stupid ass politicians.

The tuition fees bill is a bad bill and should not have gone through. Obviously, I'm aware there are more readings before it can be passed into law, but it should not have got this far.

I agree with the incentive - you go to uni you pay for. I do not agree with the proposed legislation. Why not? Because it sets out a scheme which is the same for everybody. Surely that's far? No, it's not.

The Guv is always whinging about their not being enough doctors or teachers and so on. This tuition fee bill will go nowhere near helping that, in fact, it may make it worse.

In my opinion, and this is only me, you might think I'm a crazy loon. IMO it should be based on a pyramid scheme. No, not one of those send $5 to each person on the list and two weeks later you'll receive $1,000. Cause that's all bull. What I mean is the Guv SHOULD assist those who are taking courses that give back to the community. Doctors, teachers, all those at the top of the pyramid should be financially helped should they need it. Those studying courses like film and video, animation and all those things I refer to as bullshit courses, should not.

It's right that those studying courses in multimedia and all that crap should pay for their course entirely. No help whatsoever. I've seen far too many people attending university whilst being amazed that they even got through high school.

I don't like free meals, scraping the entire grant scheme all those years ago was a good move. Too many folks back them used universities as an extension to not living in the real world. But what the Guv has squeezed into this Parliament is a waste of damn paper.

Whatever happened to spending that little bit more time making something work better? Why the sudden rush? One last point. Do Labour MPs live in the 19th century. They have this delusion that a degree equals a better paid job. Yeah, if the damn job is there for the taking! Ask me to name a dozen people who I know went to university and what job they are now doing and you'll be wondering why they bothered with a attaining a degree.

And if at all anything, it makes a mockery of the Labour manifesto.


Still, that's just my opinion

Alternatives?.......

[spike]

Those studying courses like film and video, animation and all those things I refer to as bullshit courses, should not.

Hey! I'm a TV and Video production student. /me sulks

Joking aside I think the first thing the govt has to do is get rid of the 50% target. Labour seem to have the impression that if you sit your A levels that should guarentee you a place at uni.

The Tories, however say that it should be that if you sit your A levels AND DO WELL ENOUGH IN THEM that you have earned a place at uni. And I agree with them (and it's not very often I agree with the Tories).

I've seen too many people at the Students Union who should not be allowed anywhere near a lecture theatre unless it's to see a film. (Including one who didn't know what clearing is.)

If you don't do well enough in your A levels you should be given the chance to do a vocational course, an apprenticeship or attend college and try to access uni that way.

[Alanna]

Exactly. There are too many people going to university who shouldn't, and the govt. isn't helping. It's an academic institution adn there should be good alternatives for people who aren't academic. They should make better vocational courses and promote them more so that there is an option suitable for everyone.

[Flamingo]

The govt will be paying my tuition fees however I wont be able to take a loan as big as I want This govt completely stinks, by doing this it makes us lose trust in whatever they say.. well if we hadnt already done that over Iraq

[spike]

According to www.educationet.org the NUS President announced at NUS Womans Conference that the third reading of the bill will take place on 31st March. During NUS National Conference.

The plan at the moment (if this date is right) mis to bus all delegates to London on the day to lobby MP's.

[baggers]

The most disturbing thing about this government charging everyone to go to university is that the ministers who make up the government didn't pay tuition fees themselves. That's not even to go into, since when has a LABOUR government wanted to charge the public for any public service? New Labour my posterior!