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Post by cuddles on Sept 26, 2003 22:04:40 GMT
For a while did the Lib dems not claim to be the offical opposition - as the tories didn't have any Welsh or Scottish MP's? I think they now have one Scottish MP.
I read a book about 30 days following Tony Blair before the war with Iraq. Must say you did feel slighlty sorry for him, nobody liked him. Plus if I paid tax would be upset that the British PM spends so much time on the phone to other world leaders, eg the Whitehouse.
Cambell and co at downing street seem to have a larger influence than the members of the cabient, Gordon Brown is hardly mentioned - expect in passing the budget happened during this time.
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Post by pðtù§ on Sept 26, 2003 22:35:55 GMT
I myself had no problem with the war in Iraq. It's a job that should have been finished ten years ago. What I don't agree with are people protesting when they don't really know why. Back during the war I mentioned the gassing of the 5'000 in Halabje, and was told 'that doesn't matter, that was ages ago'. Of course it matters. Hitler didn't wake up one day and decide to invade Poland, using his egg and soldiers breakfast as a visual aid. I can't stand people who can't support what they're doing.
My point is, ask anybody who says 'Tony Blair is a [expletive of their choice]' and I bet their answer will be 'he just is'. There's a lot of unjustified hate out there.
Gordon Brown - next Labour leader? He seems like a good guy, except on budget day. I'm not being nasty, but had he been PM when his daughter died his approval rating would have soared. Death accumulates popularity faster than achievements. There's something a bit twisted about that.
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Post by DarkHoarse on Sept 27, 2003 12:58:51 GMT
Some very good points about Blair and the nature of public opinion there. I guess he just made the rod for his own back by allowing the case against Saddam to rest on WMD, when there was already a perfectly justifiable moral case for war. Then of course that gets us into a whole new argument about: why now; why Iraq and not (say) Zimbabwe; why Iraq now and not Bosnia in 1992-94, etc etc etc.
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Post by Josh Lyman on Sept 29, 2003 8:11:47 GMT
i'll tell you why , two reasons ,the first is OIL, the second is THE US IS NOT INTERESTED IN ZIMBABWE  |
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Post by DarkHoarse on Oct 3, 2003 8:55:56 GMT
Yes, I know, it was at least partly a rhetorical question...
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Post by Josh Lyman on Oct 3, 2003 17:04:56 GMT
sorry ! , i don't know where rhetoric is !!  |
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Post by sig007 on Oct 5, 2003 20:23:24 GMT
Seeing as we are talking of other countries the good ol US of A dont want to invade what about Israel, of course they have never abused there position of power have they (the sarcasm just cannot be overstated) and lets face it the money that seens to flow to America is amasing. Bush is a moron - thats not his fault he was born and brought up that way - his advisers and the rest of the people that tool him to that war are really to blame..... he just went along for the ride, and lets face it "daddy" did the same - although i think that papa bush did have the intelligence just chose the wrong people to run his cabinet.
My point is, ask anybody who says 'Tony Blair is a [expletive of their choice]' and I bet their answer will be 'he just is'. There's a lot of unjustified hate out there.
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So as for Tony Blair There are many things I can say rather than " he Just is"
i) The Man is a Liar
ii) He runs the country on a "My way or the Highway" attitude (why have advisors")
iii) He and his Government are Tories in Disguise - Privatisation, ID cards Bad NHS - this sound like de ja vu to anyone else..............
and that just to start with,
I AM AVAILABLE FOR CHILDRENS PARTIES............
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Post by spike on Oct 6, 2003 9:59:13 GMT
Seeing as we are talking of other countries the good ol US of A dont want to invade what about Israel, of course they have never abused there position of power have they (the sarcasm just cannot be overstated) and lets face it the money that seens to flow to America is amasing. When I heard Noam Chomsky speak he described the Israeli army as being an offshoot of the Pentagon. |
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Post by DarkHoarse on Mar 9, 2004 14:42:57 GMT
Bit of a shock not to see this one near the top of the board after the verdict a month or so ago. Or were we all too flabbergasted to put finger to keypad?
So, was it a whitewash or are Messrs Campbell and Blair really well-meaning public servants with no other agenda whatsoever?
Any thoughts? If nothing else, further proof that you don't need to be a raving conspiracy theorist to treat the apparatus of state with great scepticism...
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